Pastoral Safe Zones

Episode #39

Pastoral Safe Zones

It’s all the rage these days, and all the talk. On college campuses, places where ideas have traditionally been freely given expressed, even those that are dangerous or detrimental to national health, safe zones are now the norm. Ideas deemed offensive to the administration are forbidden expression on the grounds those ideas might offend or injure the psyche of some of its students. Generally those ideas deemed offensive are either conservative, Christian or both. 

There has been much talk about this, mostly from the conservatives, and how silly it is that ideas can’t be expressed for fear it will hurt someone’s feelings who disagrees. Recently I heard Mike Rowe address what he sees as the problem of being too safe. (https://youtu.be/Q490iOW_-Lg) 

Here is the problem. The corrupt nature of man, even of preachers, will always lead them away from, not toward, holiness. Without challenging their new directions, without at least attempting to pull them back. If we don’t risk offending them they will certainly drift into unsafe territory. All the safety zones ever do is leave a people unprepared for danger. 

Thirty five years ago I learned that, as the world gets more evil, the churches slide toward the same evil, maybe just fifty years behind the world. Anymore it seems like older preachers have become afraid to warn the younger preachers to try to reverse the trend instead of giving in to it.

 

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Pastoral Safe Zones

Approaching Retirement

Episode #17

I was brought up in an era when pastors were taught two specific things about retirement:

  • We were to preach/Pastor until we dropped dead
  • We would be best off to opt out of Social Security because it would be bankrupt before we could use it

Times have changed.

Polygamy, In The Pulpit?

Episode #07

Who better to teach young men to enter into marriage only after much prayer and counsel, being assured that they have indeed found the woman God created for them than the man who has forfeited his calling because he was not so careful?

 

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2 Corinthians 6:11-13 Love Him Back

2 Corinthians 6:11-13 (KJV)
O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.

The Apostle expresses here what I believe is the constant struggle of the preacher; he grows to love his congregation but they don’t always equally love him.

In the case of Paul, the problem was others who came to claim that affection for themselves. We too have enemies vying for our congregation’s affection:

Sometimes it is a worldly love
A sports event or a boat or a cabin in the hills.

Sometimes it is another agenda
A political cause, a social issue or a pet peeve.

Sometimes it is another preacher
They abound today through TV, radio and social media.

Sometimes it is a nearby church
Whose members try to draw from other churches into their own.

Every pastor I think has experienced those emotions when it becomes obvious that a member of his church hasn’t the same love for him that he has for the member.

Paul simply urges them to love him as much as he loves them.

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1 Corinthians 16:15-16 Equals

1 Corinthians 16:15-16 (KJV)
I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)
That ye submit yourselves unto such, and to every one that helpeth with us, and laboureth.

Apostle Paul had a team that worked with him in his church planting ministry. I think sometimes we forget that or at least don’t give it the serious consideration we should. Very surely, the reason he was able to accomplish so much in his lifetime is due in large measure to his team.

The team was a dynamic and fluid group.

  • They all apparently traveled with him at times but it doesn’t appear to me that any of them, with the exception of Barnabas and later Silas, traveled with him all the time.
  • They would sometimes be sent ahead to prepare for his arrival.
  • They would frequently be left behind to further establish the work that was begun.
  • They would travel separate from Paul as couriers of the many pieces of correspondence Paul wrote

The key to this passage is that Paul wanted those he had led to Christ to submit to members of his team as they would submit to him. They were of equal authority to the Apostle. Though they were not apostles and though we seldom hear their names, Paul viewed them as equal.

The Pastor’s staff is just that; his staff. A church only has one pastor. The others are extensions of his ministry. Every staff member should be treated with the same authority and respect given to the pastor.

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Ezra 5:2 The Preacher’s Best Function

Ezra 5:2 (KJV)
Then rose up Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Jeshua the son of Jozadak, and began to build the house of God which is at Jerusalem: and with them were the prophets of God helping them.

I have long contended that the prophets of the Old Testament had ministries comparable to that of the New Testament preacher.

  • They were not priests (though they could be from priestly families)
  • They were not regulated
  • They were not employees but Servants of God
  • They were often contemporaries and worked side by side
  • They sometimes were contemporaries but had little to no relationship with one another

Here we find two prophets who were contemporaries, knew each other and worked together for a common purpose. Could this be viewed as a rudimentary fellowship?

The Bible says these prophets instructed the people to begin work on the Temple again and that they helped them build. I have my suspicions that they picked up tools from time to time. I doubt that they were afraid to get dirty. But the most valuable help they could give, and that help that all of the commentaries point to, is help to:

  • Inspire
  • Motivate
  • Guide and
  • Maintain focus on the work

No preacher should mind picking up a hammer and saw. But the preacher’s best function (and probably most challenging) is in keeping others at the work.

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Acts 10:6 What We Ought To Do

Acts 10:6 (KJV)
He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

God told Cornelius that there was a man who would tell him, “..what thou oughtest to do.

  • He would not tell him what he had to do.
  • He would not tell him what others thought he should do.
  • He would not tell him what the philosophers and scholars suggested he do.

He would tell him what he ought to do.

Peter’s words would come not from books or traditions handed down from Judaism. Peter’s words would come from:

  • His three years experience with Jesus,
  • His own understanding of the Word of God and
  • His anointing with the Holy Spirit of God

Very few people like to be told what to do but everyone needs a preacher to tell them what they ought to do.

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Joshua 11:15 Joshua Obeyed Moses’ commands

Joshua 11:15 (KJV)
As the LORD commanded Moses his servant, so did Moses command Joshua, and so did Joshua; he left nothing undone of all that the LORD commanded Moses.

 

That Joshua was the man of God for his hour was indisputable.

  • The Lord has appointed him to replace Moses
  • The Lord had parted Jordan River under Joshua as a sign of his authority
  • The Lord had spoken to Joshua even as he had to Moses
  • The Lord had given Israel great victories under Joshua

 

Joshua could have reasoned that he had never experienced the many rebellions and murmurings against his leadership Moses did and neither had he been rebuked and not allowed to enter the Promised Land as had. He could have manipulated this thinking into reasons not to have obeyed the commands of Moses. Joshua was of a different character than that. Moses was not there to supervise him and Joshua was a powerful leader in his own right. Still he honored the structure of authority.

  • God commanded Moses
  • Moses commanded Joshua
  • Joshua obeyed Moses

Would to God we had more of this sort of character among those proclaiming themselves to be men of God. So many today believe that

  • their college degree
  • their ordination paper or
  • their title as pastor

frees them to run away from the leaders God placed before them. Moses was gone. But Joshua obeyed Moses still.

 

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Is a Divorced Man Qualified for Church Office?

1 Timothy 3:2 KJV
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

 

1 Timothy 3:12 KJV
Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

 

While I am certain I am unable to settle the issue once and for all, I chose today to settle it in my own mind. “Is a man who is divorced breaking the command of the Bible to pastor a church?” I therefore read every commentary I had at my disposal (eighteen in all). Virtually every one of them that had any commentary at all on this subject agreed that the subject was not polygamy (more than one wife at a time – an argument used frequently to admit men who are disqualified by divorce into the pastorate). Several of them do not employ the word “divorce” so I left them out of this compilation. Below are the words of Bible students of a century or more ago. I do not, of course, endorse all that they say on every subject but only reference them to make the point that the most common agreement is that this command of Paul was given for the purpose of reversing the common practice of the day of divorce and remarriage.[1]

 

Some of the most wonderful Christians I know have been divorced and remarried. I believe these fine people are to be treated with dignity, respect and, in many cases, honor. They are not second class Christians in any respect of the word. But we have to obey the Bible no matter what our mistakes have been. The Bible very clearly commands that those men who have been divorced and remarried not serve in the capacity of either of the church offices: pastor or deacon.

 

John Gill (1690-1771)
“…to be understood…in a literal sense of his conjugal estate; though this rule does not make it necessary that he should have a wife; or that he should not marry, or not have married a second wife, after the death of the first; only if he marries or is married, that he should have but one wife at a time; so that this rule excludes all such persons from being elders, or pastors, or overseers of churches, that were “polygamists”; who had more wives than one at a time, or had divorced their wives, and not for adultery, and had married others. Now polygamy and divorces had very much obtained among the Jews; nor could the believing Jews be easily and at once brought off of them. And though they were not lawful nor to be allowed of in any; yet they were especially unbecoming and scandalous in officers of churches.”

 

Philip Schaff, Popular Commentary of the New Testament, (1879-1890)
“A third explanation is, perhaps, more satisfactory. The most prominent fact in the social life both of Jews and Greeks at this period was the frequency of divorce. This, as we know, Jewish teachers, for the most part, sanctioned on even trifling grounds (Matthew 5:31-32; Matthew 19:3-9). The apostle, taking up the law which Christ had laid down, infers that any breach of that law (even in the one case which made marriage after divorce just permissible) would at least so far diminish a man’s claim to respect as to disqualify him for office. This case would, of course, be included in the more general rule of the second interpretation, but the phrase ‘the husband of one wife’ has a more special emphasis thus applied. St. Paul would not recognise the repudiated wife as having forfeited her claim to that title, and some, at least, of its rights.”

Adam Clarke (1715-1832)
“The apostle’s meaning appears to be this: that he should not be a man who has divorced his wife and married another “

 

Vincent’s Word Studies (1886)
“Is the injunction aimed (a) at immoralities respecting marriage – concubinage, etc., or (b) at polygamy, or (c) at remarriage after death or divorce? The last is probably meant.”

 

Peoples New Testament Commentary (1891)
“A married man, and having only one wife. In those loose times of divorce, men might be converted who had successively several wives. Divorce for unscriptural reasons would not free a man from his first, lawful wife. Hence the limitation to those who had only one living wife.”

 

Matthew Henry (1662-1714)
“He must be the husband of one wife; not having given a bill of divorce to one, and then taken another, or not having many wives at once, as at that time was too common both among Jews and Gentiles, especially among the Gentiles.”

 

Expositors Bible Commentary (1887-1896)
“Far more worthy of consideration is the view that what is aimed at in both cases is not polygamy, but divorce. Divorce, as we know from abundant evidence, was very frequent both among the Jews and the Romans in the first century of the Christian era. Among the former it provoked the special condemnation of Christ; and one of the many influences which Christianity had upon Roman law was to diminish the facilities for divorce. According to Jewish practice the husband could obtain a divorce for very trivial reasons; and in the time of St. Paul Jewish women sometimes took the initiative. According to Roman practice either husband or wife could obtain a divorce very easily. Abundant instances are on record, and that in the case of people of high character, such as Cicero. After the divorce either of the parties could marry again; and often enough both of them did so; therefore in the Roman Empire in St. Paul’s day there must have been plenty of persons of both sexes who had been divorced once or twice and had married again. There is nothing improbable in the supposition that quite a sufficient number of such persons had been converted to Christianity to make it worth while to legislate respecting them. They might be admitted to baptism; but they must not be admitted to an official position in the Church.

[1] The emphasis in bold and italics in each of the quotes is my own.

 

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1 Timothy 3:2 divorced pastors

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